But it occurred to me after that post that I wasn't addressing what we think might be going on with the Divine base rate, about who God will save or damn.
(And to be clear, what I'm analyzing here is the crudest form of soteriological thinking. Most of us on this blog don't think about soteriology in these terms, and rightly so. But some people--a lot actually--do frame the issues like this. So it is interesting to see how that thinking might work.)
By analyzing the Divine base rate we quickly realize something I mentioned a few weeks ago: A view of God is often rumbling in the background when we talk about moral or doctrinal issues. That is, while it seems that we might be disagreeing about this or that bit of biblical interpretation or application, what we are really disagreeing about is what God is like. There is, in a sense, only one real argument Christians have: What is God like? Everything we fight about is really just another version, in different guise, of that same question. What is God like?
So we don't pick our selection ratios (who we think is Saved or Lost) willy nilly. Rather, we try to guess what the Divine base rate will be and set our selection ratio accordingly. For example, here is the Divine base rate of a "wrathful" God:


Contrast this with the liberal view of a "merciful" God:


In short, the liberal and conservative selection ratios "make sense" given their background view of God.
Okay, in light of this how do the two groups view each other? What if you have a liberal selection ratio and God is wrathful? Or if you have a conservative selection ratio and God is merciful?
What you get, basically, are extreme forms of the Type 1 and Type 2 error patterns we noted in my prior post. For example, here is the liberal selection ratio with with a wrathful God:

(Psychoanalytic Observation: All these Type 1 errors explain why conservatives read this blog and play "Catcher in the Rye". They are preoccupied with all these Type 1 errors. Thus, they want to warn us all.)
By contrast, here is the conservative selection ratio with a merciful God:

All we are illustrating here is what I said above: Christians have only one debate with each other. What is God like? The conservative objection to the liberal selection ratio is really an objection to their view of God. Because if the liberals have God's base rate right then their selection ratio is just fine. Same with the liberal objections about the judgmental nature of the conservative selection ratio. At root, it's really an objection about the conservative view of God. Because if conservatives do have God's base rate right then their selection ratio also makes sense.
So, I guess we have to ask the question: Who has God's base rate right?
Let me go ahead can give you the correct answer. That'd be worth your time in reading all this, right? For me to give you the answer to the most vexing question in Christianity?
Because, to be honest, it is all very confusing. The bible really is a mixed bag on this score. Take Jesus. The same guy who said "Father forgive them" is the same guy who said "Broad is the road that leads to destruction." The point being, you can find plenty of Scripture to defend you view of God's base rate.
So here is what I think is going to happen. Take it for what it is worth.
I think both parties are correct. God is both merciful and wrathful. But here is the key point: God's wrath is his mercy and his mercy is his wrath. God is self-consistent. His attributes and desires do not come into conflict. That is the mistake I think the liberals and conservatives are making, they are pitting God's mercy against his wrath. And vice versa. Like it is an either/or.
But I think it's a both/and.
This, then, is the way I see it working out:




So I think liberals and conservatives are both right about the Divine base rates. They just disagree on timing. Conservatives, you have the early picture. And it's an important picture. Liberals, you have a later vision. And it's good to know where we are headed. The problem with the both pictures is that out of sync neither work.
But synchronized, well, synchronized you can see the great drama of God's saving mercy and judgment.
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